Ignatius Catholic Study Bible (Update) Old Testament

Timothy has the news:

Responding to a listener question on a recent Catholic Answers Live radio program, Fr. Fessio of Ignatius Press stated that he hoped the Ignatius Catholic Study Bible Old Testament would be completed in a year or two.  That, of course, is nothing new.  We heard that from Dr. Scott Hahn a few months backs on EWTN Bookmark.  What was interesting, however, was that it appears that Ignatius may not ultimately publish the complete ICSB in one volume, but rather two.  Citing the amount of commentary and study helps found in the ICSB, he said they are struggling to figure a way to publish it in one volume.  You can listen to the entire program here.  He answers the ICSB question around minute 32.

Now, what do you think about the real possibility of there never being a complete, one volume edition of the ICSB?  Personally, having examined many study Bibles over the past ten years, including ones like the ESV Study Bible and the NLT Study Bible, both of which contain more notes and study helps than the ICSB, I would be highly disappointed if it is only available in two distinct volumes.  Those two study Bibles I just mentioned are full of annotations, contain a ton of extra material in the appendix, and come in many different editions and covers.  The NLT Study Bible, which I am flipping through as I write this post, has well over 300 pages of extra material in the appendix and contains more cross-references and in-text theme notes/person profiles/maps than the ICSB.  The ESV Study Bible, like the recently revised NIV Study Bible, is produced with full-color charts, images, and in-text maps.  When you compare these three study Bibles to the overall look of the ICSBNT, there is a huge difference in appearance and the amount of material contained within.  While the material in the ICSB is outstanding, something that has never been in doubt, the overall look and production quality is sorely lacking.  And the possibility of there not being a one volume edition is simply mind-blowing.  Again and again I continue to wonder what is going on at Ignatius Press concerning the ICSB.  Do they have limitations on what they can do?  Have they looked at other study Bibles on the market?  Where is the promotional support for the ICSB and the RSV-2CE?

Come on guys, hurry up yet!

The Bible in one volume will definitely be my Bible of choice.

 

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16 Responses to Ignatius Catholic Study Bible (Update) Old Testament

  1. Agreed. I know Ignatius is a private concern and finances are tight especially in the publishing arena. However, I love the Ignatius RSV 2CE and although I’d like to have a good Catholic Study Bible I can live without it. I bought the New Testament Study Edition and thought it was the whole and complete Bible only to discover it was thr New Testament! Not that the Ignatius Bible can’t be improved upon like making it a Smih Sewn Binding, offer Genuine Leather i(Calfskin/Goatskin-Morocco) instead of just Bonded Leather, and color selection not just black or burgundy. Saddle Brown and Forest Green would be good options!

  2. Jack Grimes says:

    What is needed are some bold bishops willing to place exclusive contracts with Ignatius to provide bibles for their parishes.

    Or, better, the USCCB should authorize the use of RSV-CE as a Lectionary.

    Either of those moves would open up the markets necessary to support the kind of materials we see in Protestant study bibles.

  3. DMC says:

    I would be willing to grossly overpay for the entire, one-volume Ignatius Study Bible in Morocco leather.

    • Sadly this is never going to happen, just getting Ignatius Press to put something in Bonded leather is major deal, and if your real lucky maybe some piece of so-called “leather”. I have a few Ignatius Bibles myself. The Ignatius RSV Brown Second Catholic Edition, 2006. I think they just call this “leather”?
      As too the NT Ignatius Catholic Study Bible, Black “Leather” (“Leatherbound” / Bonded?). And too the Ignatius Catholic Bible Large Print, Black Bonded leather.

      @Jack: Indeed good Leather Bible making has been a “Protestant” affair for quite some time. I have almost every major Bible known to man, and perhaps today the best Bible made (Protestant btw) is by R.L. Allan’s (Scotland, UK, etc). And then too Cambridge, Oxford, Schuyler, and the TBS Bibles. Also Holman makes a nice leather (for today anyway) Bible, see the HCSB Study Bible (Genuine leather, and a Deluxe leather). And then there is the NET Bible, which comes in a Top Grain leather. And we must not forget Crossway Bibles, perhaps the ESV Study Bible, Premium Calfskin leather, is still the best!

      Btw, for our scholar types, there is a Greek-English NT RSV Edition, hardcover, (Tyndale? I am cannot quite remember?). Mine is older, and a Zondervan Hardback, but published by special arrangement with Samuel Bagster & Sons, LTD, London, 1970. The Nestle Greek Text with a Literal English Translation by Alfred Marshall, with Foreward by J.B. Phillips. This with my Tyndale – The New Greek-English Interlinear NT USB 4th edition, Nestle-Aland 26th edition (with the NRSV in parallel). Are, (with my Greek NT, UBS-UBS4) and many Greek Lexicons (the new Bauer-Danker Arndt-Gingrich Greek-English Lexicon, Third Edition is a must!), are my tools. I give all of this for those that care to surf the used book stores on-line! i.e. Espeically the older RSV Greek-English Interlinear! (Note I have been asked by several to share some of this, from my own use and library)

      • Note too, there is a nice new tool: the, Analytical Lexicon to the Septuagint, Expanded Edition, from Hendrickson. The LXX is more important than we know, the basic “Bible” of the NT Church, to degree. Though St. Paul also loved to use his idea of the/a Free Hebrew Textual usage.

      • Michael Frost says:

        Fr. Robert, As you are probably aware the Orthodox Church still uses the Septuagint as her official text. Sadly there is no real complete translation of the just the entire Septuagint into English. The recent New English Translation of the Septuagint (NETS) and Orthodox Study Bible (OSB) are odd hybrids that use the NRSV and NKJV Masoretic texts as a foundation and then they overlay the Greek Septuagint on top, compare the two, and go with the Greek in places where they differ. (And the NETS uses all the archaic Greek spellings (e.g., Ioudith, Sophonias, Abdias, Esaias) to boot, making it unuseable for liturgical use and difficult even for private devotion.) But neither had a translation team that translated the LXX from scratch. I’m not sure Brenton’s mid-19th century translation did either; I suspect he relied heavily on the KJV OT?

        Jack’s comment about the USCCB making anything other than their current, horrendous NAB (a complete joke!) available officially for liturgical use in USA is almost too funny to comment on. They control the copyright, force the parishes to use it, and rake in the money! Is always sweet to be your own monopolist. Too bad the NAB is one of the absolute worst translations available. It says something when money takes precedence over faithful translation of scripture?

      • Michael Frost says:

        The Lutheran Study Bible (ESV) by Concordia Publishing House (CPH) is now a most interesting 2 volume total with the recent addition of their The Apocrypha: Lutheran Edition (ESV) with Notes (2012). This alone runs to about 500 pages.

      • @Michael: I have always found “Orthodox” scholarship rather hit & miss? And yes I have the NETS and the OSB, and even old Brenton’s! Of course for me the Apocryphal writings have a literary and historical record, and they can provide background and some material for the understanding of the NT world. But the “Revelation” of God is the Old and NT!

        Indeed the Lutheran “Apocrypha” should be interesting!

  4. Linda says:

    I bought the ICSB New Testament and would appreciate an ICSB Old Testament in a separate book as the New Testament is thick in and of itself. We are studying books of the old testament this year for which there are no study guides from Ignatius.

    • Indeed both together one would need a small wheelbarrow perhaps? ;) But yes, bring on the ICBS OT for sure!

      • Michael Frost says:

        Too funny about the size issue. Reminds me that my ESV Study Bible (Large Print) edition is great for both exercise (weightlifting) and home defense (either as a bludgeon or as something that might even stop a .44 Magnum round). ;)

      • Linda says:

        I am happy you agree and appreciate greatly all the work that would go into ICBS OT.

  5. Bil Carter says:

    I met Dr. Hahn at the Priests, Deacons and Seminarians conference at Franciscan University during the summer of 2012. I had the chance to have a lengthy discussion with him. I asked him, point-blank about this work. He said “We are 80% finished with the ICSB Old Testament”. Take that for what it’s worth. I didn’t think the last 20% would take another year and a half, or perhaps even longer.

  6. Gush! Why am I here? Like many others, searching for Ignatius Catholic Study Bible “Old Testament” Edition. Would I say am disappointed? No, off course. Only that as I join millions in appreciating ‘Ignatius.’ for their sincere wholistic effort in providing us with the New Testament Edition, I would also appeal they make such bold honest effort in providing us with the Old Testament version. Long Live Ignatius Press! Long Live Scott Hahn and Curtis Mitch!! Long Live the Universal Church!!! Peace.

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