November 4, 2012
Filed under Church
Tagged with Calendar, Christianity, Church, Easter, Holy Land, Israel, Liturgical Calendar, News, Orthodox
About Fr Stephen SmutsTAC Priest in South Africa.
This is good! What are the three moments central to our faith? Christ’s Suffering, his Death, and Resurrection. This is at the center of our liturgical celebration, even during Christmas.
I can also understand how outsiders see our religion: Muslims ask “Just how many times was Jesus Christ born, and how many times did He die and rise again?”
BUT! BUT! Hopefully, any changes in the calendar becomes uniform- it is scandalous that there are disagreement on the day the whole of Christendom celebrates something as important as Easter.
Since the late apostolic era, has there ever been a time in Christendom that all “orthodox” (non-heretical/non-Gnostic) Christians celebrated Pascha on the same day everywhere? Which was why the Ecumencial Council attempted to resolve the issue in the 4th century!
Yeah, now that I think about it, even in the Catholic Church, Eastern Catholics celebrate with a different calendar from the Roman Catholics; and within the Latin Rite, the Novus Ordo people celebrate in a different calendar from Traditionalists.
Still, Easter is celebrated at the same date.
Well, whatever they do, I hope bishops know what they’re doing.
If I remember correctly (it’s something I read years ago and just tickled the back of my mind when I read this), there was a general meeting of Orthodox bishops before WWI which came to the conclusion that there was no substantive reason why the date of Easter could not be aligned throughout Christendom. Further discussions were stalled by the outbreak of war and the moment passed.
In any case, the Orthodox first have to decide on which calendar they want to use!
You “hope [your RC] bishops know what they’re doing”? I thought you had an infallible papacy and magesterium? Or is this some “trick” to fool EO? Or is it creeping Byzantianization?
Papal infallibility does NOT apply to Bishops; and to ordinary Pontifical decisions. If people who challenge it could stop depicting it as something it is not, we would progress on the road of Ecumenism and reception of the Petrine Primacy in the whole Church.
+ PAX et BONUM
Ya gotta have a sense of humor (humour?)! Didn’t you see the emoticon? I have and have read your RC CCC. Primary paragraphs on papal infallibility are 891 and 2035. [I'm just glad to see RCs in Holy Land have concluded EO date is...better.]
One of the faults we Trad. Catholics have is our dour nature. Call it “Romanitas”, more specifically “Gravitas”- you never really see statues of dignified Roman figures smiling! I mean.
Addendum: dour or just uncomfortable with liberalized “modern” Catholicism.
Except in Jerusalem? Did I hear correctrly?
When Greece adopted the Gregorian calendar for Christmas..there was a major schism.
Except in Jerusalem and Bethlehem, because of the “status quo” set forth by a dead Muslim sultan. (Which is why the keys to the church belong to a Muslim family.)
I’m guessing that various denominations were fighting each other way before.
So the “status quo” determines who does what, where, and when.
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