A Papal Meeting for Conservative Anglican Leaders
December 13, 2012 5 Comments
Hmmm…
Duncan, Wabukala, Sutton meet with Vatican officials in Rome
Why? Perhaps the Ordinariate option needs to be pointed out to them in person?
At the close of the General Audience of 28 Nov 2012, the leader of the Anglican Church in North America, Archbishop Robert Duncan met with Pope Benedict XVI at the Vatican.
Archbishop Eliud Wabukala of Kenya, leader of the Fellowship of Confessing Anglicans, was to have also attended the General Audience, but was delayed. Joined by the chairman of the ACNA’s ecumenical relations commission, Bishop Ray Sutton of the Reformed Episcopal Church, Archbishop Duncan spoke with the pope. The three later met with Vatican officials. Details of the conversations have not been released. Claims of the significance of the meeting or of its symbolism are also premature, one Vatican watcher said, until the substance of the conversation is known.
Msgr. Jeffrey Steenson, Ordinary of the Personal Ordinariate of the Chair of St. Peter (the Anglican Ordinariate in the United States and Canada) told Anglican Ink his office had not facilitated the meeting and was not involved in the discussions. He noted a meeting after the General Audience was a “courtesy extended to ecumenical leaders”…
Read on here.
Is the Fellowship of Confessing Anglicans not more of a ‘low’ Church grouping?
About Fr Stephen Smuts
Duncan and Sutton aren’t interested in the Ordinariate. Duncan ordains women and Sutton is REC. This is about giving the ACNA credibility in wider Anglicanism. FOCA is low evangelical.
I think Conchur is likely more right than wrong. The REC parish about 150 miles from me quickly sent out a favorable e-mail with pictures on this meeting; this priest is very Calvinistic, not being favorably disposed toward the RC Ordinariate or EO Western Rite. I get the impression they view these type meetings and interactions as Rome validating their independence, treating them more like a sibling?
Duncan believes in three things… I, me and myself.
Worthless; yet destructive is the idolatry and subversion–of your and our faith, by these Anglo-Catholics. So inviting they are perceived in contrast to the secular-humanist Episcopalian church in America.
“these Anglo-Catholics”
Except that “these Anglo-Catholics,” if by that you mean Duncan and Sutton, are anything but Anglo-Catholics, despite the costumes they are wearing for this dressing-up session. Duncan, as Conchur wrote, “ordains” women, and it has not been so long since Sutton’s REC allowed its deacons to perform “the Lord’s Supper,” and accepted clergy coming into the REC from other Protestant denominations to become ministers in the REC without any form of (re)ordination — cf. the Church of England in South Africa allowing these things, and even “lay celebration” of the Lord’s Supper (since 1936).