Fr Stephen Smuts

Women’s Ordained Ministry Has Not Stemmed C of E Decline

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Written by Fr Stephen Smuts

March 22, 2014 at 17:31

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  1. Just speaking for myself, there is not much more “ecclesiastically” offensive than seeing a woman/women in the/a religious collar, and garb! The affront and offensive is toward God and His Word, (Gen. 3: 17 / 1 Cor. 3-10, etc. / 2 Tim. 2: 8-15). But beware, today, this is simply socially & culturally so unpopular a position to take. Oh the names they call St. Paul, and of course those of us that follow his writings and authority here!

    irishanglican ~ Fr. Robert

    March 22, 2014 at 17:53

    • If you want “much more “… The in-your-face lesbian priestess is enough to make you look forward to the apocolypse? :(

      Michael Frost

      March 22, 2014 at 18:56

      • Yes, oh for the time when Christ makes… “according to His good pleasure which He purposed in Himself, that in the dispensation of the fulness of the times He might gather together in one all things in Christ, both which are in heaven and which are on earth – in Him.” (Eph. 1: 11-12)… And certainly the “Apocalypse” begins this! :) (Phil. 2: 10-11)

        irishanglican ~ Fr. Robert

        March 22, 2014 at 19:16

  2. Make that 1 Tim. 2: 8-15 obviously! (Slip of my old memory)

    irishanglican ~ Fr. Robert

    March 22, 2014 at 18:48

  3. For me it’s nothing to do with women.
    Why follow a religion that won’t protest the destruction of the UK’s core religions in favor of Islam.

    thoughtfullyprepping

    March 22, 2014 at 20:34

  4. Here’s a piece about the historical aspects in the theology of Islam and Christianity. It is quite obvious that Islam does not take the historical of Christianity at face value! And for true Christianity the crucifixion is historical and quite everything! Here is not “religion” strictly, nor philosophy, but the historical death of Jesus/Yeshua, the masculine name of Jesus of Nazareth, a Jew and the Jewish Messiah (Died with the charge above His head…”THIS IS JESUS THE KING OF THE JEWS.” – Matt. 27: 37). Who Christians believe HE is the Christ of God!

    http://carm.org/islam-crucifixion-of-jesus

    irishanglican ~ Fr. Robert

    March 22, 2014 at 21:23

  5. See the one (so far) comment on this thread:

    http://www.thinkinganglicans.org.uk/archives/006523.html

    “Of the 34 comments currently responding to the Archbishop of Canterbury answering questions on the radio phone-in 33 concern his linking of killings in Africa to gay marriage. However, Archbishop Justin did have other things to say during the course of the hour long programme. For example he made this extraordinary comment – ” I think the opponents of women’s ordination are wrong theologically.” It’s a long time since I have heard such an arrogant and crass statement emanating from the lips of an Archbishop of Canterbury. Does that mean that Justin Welby regards his new best friend in all the world – Pope Francis – as being “wrong theologically”, not to mention Bartholomew, the Ecumenical Patriarch?
    With the vast backlash of criticism currently descending upon him I think we are all beginning to realise that the current ABC has been promoted beyond his abilities. The same was true of his predecessor but one George Carey – inflicted upon the Church by Margaret Thatcher after only little over two years experience as a diocesan bishop. Welby had less than half that time at Durham. When he was appointed it was said that his great strengths lay in the ministry of reconciliation. To date he doesn’t seem to be making much impression as a reconciler in his role as titular head of the Anglican Communion.”

    Oh, to be “a fly on the wall” when Welby decided to lecture the Pope and the EP about their “error.” He may not get very far with the EP, though, as I recall how, about a decade ago William Swing, then the Episcopalian Bishop of California, wrote on his blog about how he had met with the EP and offered to “share” with him his views on WO – but the EP said he wasn’t interested, and would rather not “share.”

    William Tighe

    April 5, 2014 at 15:37

  6. Well these “clergywomen” have the the “clergymen” smugness down alright!

    Matthew the Wayfarer

    April 14, 2014 at 02:52


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