6 thoughts on “If Everything Requires a Cause, What Caused God?

  1. Every thing in the universe requires a cause. The creator of the universe must be something greater and something that was not created. Even if something greater than the universe created the universe and that also had a beginning then it had to be created by something greater. Tracing back to something that wasn’t created but is eternal and unchanging.

  2. Saturday, August 30, 2014 Verse of the Day – ESV

    Job 38:4-7 (ESV)
    “Where were you when I laid the foundation of the earth? Tell me, if you have understanding. Who determined its measurements–surely you know! Or who stretched the line upon it? On what were its bases sunk, or who laid its cornerstone, when the morning stars sang together and all the sons of God shouted for joy?

  3. Simple logic here:

    If we say that something is a primary mover, and then we ask what caused it, then it is not a primary mover. But if we define a Primary Mover, as something greater than everything it has caused into being and sustains into existence, then it would be a logical contradiction for the uncaused to have a cause; the sophomore would say “Aha! Then your God is illogical and does not exist to reasonable minds!” But that is a non-sequitur; the atheist already assumes that the universe is all there is, believing that the God which created it is within it, rather than both immanent and transcendent- the atheist already assumes that the universe goes on forever, even beyond the big bang- but that’s even scientifically absurd; if the universe is infinite, then by the laws of thermodynamics and the observable expansion of the universe, we would have already experienced a heat-death from the immense amount of space the universe has already expanded into some 16 billion years ago.

    But if atheists have to accept that the universe is not infinite, that it had a cause, then that event in the universe must have had a trigger, a greater cause- this is why scientists now are arguing about dark matter and the supposed struggle before the big bang; but nary a word about before that. In other words, they make up things and expect people to believe that and disparage any notion of God.

    Of course, this is all natural faith. Supernatural faith, however….

    • Indeed GOD, (Hebrew: Elohim, plural) is alone the Creator! The plural manifests God’s majesty and divinity, and of course later we see that God Is Triune! As as Augustine says: “that no sense can be made of a doctrine of creation that portrays God as forming the world out of pre-existent “formless” matter: when Genesis 1: 2 speaks of the “darkness” that prevailed before the first recorded word of creation, all that is meant is the absence of light – not an eternal, uncreated abyss of disorder.” (The Confessions, De fide et symbolo (2.2), De Genesi adversus Manicheos (1.55-57).

      “By faith [not logic or science] we understand that the universe was formed at God’s command, so that what is seen was not made out of what was visible.” (Hebrew 11: 3)

  4. Everything that moves was started by another thing that moves banging into it, but if that went back into infinity, there’d be no start, and therefore no movement. But because there is movement, there had to be an “Initiator that had no start.” If it had a start, it could not be God. But there had to be a start somewhere, or nothing would move. And that start had to be God, because if there were no God there’d be no start. Since we already showed if this went back into infinity. there’d be no start, and if no start no movement. so since there was movement there also was a start that had no initiator itself, since if it did it could not be God. And since there had to be a starter, there has to be a God. This is just one of five proofs of St Thomas Aquinas, which are more convincing than St Anselm, bless him.

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